Telebid loses case against blogger

On the 17th of June the district court of Berlin passed judgment regarding a lawsuit that was filed by Telebid/Sofina against a blogger in 2007. The claim had been the last in a series of attempts to invoke censorship over a satirical article the blogger had posted in 2005 and which had received over 400 comments over the year to follow. Several written warnings had failed to silence the author who had been so considerate as to remove most of the objectionable content to begin with. But as Sofina showed no signs of agreeing to a compromise he refused further cooperation. In return Sofina pressed legal charges against the remaining title of the old blog entry plus the picture that used to illustrate the original text.
Having had over a year to consider the case, the court has now ruled in favour of tobe, the accused blogger. As tobe was defending himself by refering to his right of freedom of expression, the verdict can be considered a significant success for the German blog culture which in recent times has suffered a great deal from well-heeled companies succeeding in silencing bloggers through extensive legal actions.

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Paul says…

Don’t do it! That’s what London Blogger Paul has to say on the subject of Telebid. For him it’s bidding with added gambling. He cannot emphasize enough: every bid costs money. Even if it turns out to be no winning bid. Considering people are spending more money than the auctionend items are worth, the one and only real winner is Telebid.
If you are the sort of person who would fall for cheap Lottery slogans you’ll probably be prone to give Telebid a go. All the rest had better leave it alone… Read more

First feedback

Here are some quotes I picked from moneysavingexperts.com, an English speaking community. This is what people thought when they had a first look at Telebid:

  • If you do decide to use the site, please read the help section of the site and understand what you are doing before you go chasing that bargain….
  • seems a very odd site, i can’t imagine sane people being interested in it.
  • This site must be for people with enough money to waste that they could go and buy the premium electronics in Dixons etc.
  • i don’t expect them to last long once people realise how much they are paying for their bargains.
  • The concepts is very simple but very effective as it taps into peoples greed and in built desire for a “bargin”
  • the Telebid creators are probably feeling quite pleased with themselves for thinking up such a simple way to part other greedy fools from their money. I know it’s survival of the financially fittest, natural selection of the bank statement, etc. etc. etc. but that doesn’t make it right.
  • It’s basically gambling! Let’s say you have a 2% chance of being the winner.

Many more opinions to follow from other sites… So stay tuned!

How it works

In order to understand the heavy criticism and controversy that Telebid caused in its home country it is necessary to understand the basic concept of the whole thing, i.e. how Telebid works. I’ll do my best to explain.
Telebid sells brand new stuff through a unique bidding system. Those can be products such as ipods, LCD-TVs or even cars.  Every product starts at a ridiculously low price to attract the maximum number of potential buyers. Everybody who is interested in buying can express their interest by placing a bid. As soon a bid has been placed a countdown for that specific product is set in motion. It counts down a specific amount of time, e.g. 15 seconds. Should this countdown elapse with nobody else placing a bid, the last bidder gets to buy the product at the current price. The current price is determined by number of bids on that products, meaning it increases marginally with every bid that has been placed.

A ficticious example to illustrate the concept: A brand new car is offered by telebid at a starting price of 1 GBP.  Approx. 500 visitors decide that they are interested in buying a car at that price. Visitor 1 places a bid – the price of the car goes up by 10 pence. The timer for this product starts counting down from 15 seconds. Within these 15 seconds visitor 2 decides that the car is still worth buying at 1,10 GBP and places a bid when the counter shows 5 seconds to go. Again the price goes up by 10p.  The timer restarts its counting from 15 seconds.  Now visitor 3 decides to place a bid… and so on.
Clear?
So assuming each of those 500 people that initially saw the car popping up on the telebid website actually decide to place a bid the price would be at 61 GBP which would still be a pretty good bargain for a brand new car, wouldn’t it?

What’s in it for Telebid?
Reading telebid’s aggressive advertising slogans you are lead to believe that you can save tons of money by obtaining products at 90% off the retail price. Indeed, browsing through some old telebid “auctions” gives the impression that telebid users buy products for quite a bit less than their worth. So how does Telebid finance the whole thing? After all there are not just bills to pay for the products telebid is selling. The whole thing needs to be highly profitable as well. Especially since Wellington Partners, the primary investor behind Telebid has pumped 3 million Euros into the startup.
To understand how telebid can afford to sell products below their retail price and still make huge profit will become clear when I tell you that visitors have to pay for each bid they place. 50p to be quite exact.  So take the example from above with 500 people having bid on a brand new car. If you care to calculate Telebid will already have earned 250 GBP by the time the price of the car has reached 61 GBP.  Now, considering how many hundreds of people visit the telebid page at any given moment, how likely do you think it might be that during the bidding of those 500 people (approx. 10 minutes) another 500 will have decided that 61 GBP is a pretty good bargain?
In the end the car might sell at a bargain price of 5,001 GBP but telebid will cash in the 5001 plus 25,000 GBP through bids.

What’s in it for you?
Not much unless you enjoy a good thrill and are willing to pay accordingly. But then you might want to check the nearest casino in your neighbourhood. My bet is, you’ll get more a hell of a time out of it there and even get away with loosing less of that precious cash than with telebid. No, seriously!  Consider the odds. You COULD end up being the lucky one betting exactly within those 15 seconds when everybody else has lost interest. But then you COULD also win the lottery… Or you could end up as one of those 999 bidders that (together) paid 25,ooo pounds without getting anything out of it but a momentary thrill of dreaming about a bargain. Convinced? If not I am curious as to how many lost bids is it going to take to convince you. Go ahead and try it!
I am looking forward to reading your experiences in the comment section below!

Hello unknowing world!

And welcome to my very own website on Telebid, a so called “auction concept” that was launched in Germany in the year 2005. Ever since then there has been a lot of criticism. Much of this criticism was so severe, that SoFina, the company behind Telebid, saw no choice but to start legal actions against some of the people publishing information. Information that might keep readers from participating in Telebid auctions.
As a result of ever more increasing negative publicity SoFina accelerated their plans to expand internationally, pressumingly intending to start with a clean slate in another country.

That’s were I come into play. Being able to speak both German and English my wish is to inform you of what has been going in Germany and why so many people including a lot of former telebid clients  are against what is going on @telebid.com, telebid.de or any other SoFina concept for that matter.

Hopefully the information provided here will prevent you from making the same mistakes I  and many others have made by signing up to a highly controversial concept that strongly resembles an online gambling platform.